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Really upset with the jackspot spin today.

It stops on 3 000 000 cheaps. But, it turn just a little and stop finally on 45 000 cheaps.

Just a little cheated!

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3 hours ago, Kenef said:

Greetings,

I wonder how I can get private game with friends?

When entering Cash Game tables you can select "private table" option, only invited people will play there.

In Sit&Go, Spin&Play games, only if queue time is long, you can invite friend to same room (table).

Other tables - it's based on randomness and probably hard to achieve (Big Win, Heads Up).

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3 hours ago, radiant said:

Really upset with the jackspot spin today.

It stops on 3 000 000 cheaps. But, it turn just a little and stop finally on 45 000 cheaps.

Just a little cheated!

What are "cheaps"? Hahaha... You are just not lucky today. Try next time...

Edited by Beridok

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On 10/25/2017 at 9:44 PM, Corrie said:

Hi Beridok, thanks for the reminder. Great that you noticed we rebalanced the XP a bit. You will get much more XP in the saloons, but the required XP for your level has also changed. So your time to complete the level is about the same. We did this to make the progression more fluid, to give everyone a better progression feeling! :)

 

On 2/17/2018 at 1:55 PM, radiant said:

Really upset with the jackspot spin today.

It stops on 3 000 000 cheaps. But, it turn just a little and stop finally on 45 000 cheaps.

Just a little cheated!

I believe you Radiant.  Same thing happened to me too not once, but twice. And it was the purple spin everytime.. Stopped initially at a high prize, i had the first at 30 million and 2nd at 3 million. And everytime was stopped at these amounts and then suddenly returning to some pathetic amounts of 45 000 or 90 000.

And now let's see the non-believer Beridok showing up and making us  understand that nothing is wrong, everything is in perfect order and such.

Stranger things is happening here and will always be like that. I have no doubt about that.

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7 hours ago, BogdyNepo said:

And now let's see the non-believer Beridok showing up and making us  understand that nothing is wrong, everything is in perfect order and such.

But I won jackpot in orange spin (10M) and jackpot in purple spin (30M). And many times lower amounts like 100K or 300K.

Why you even whine about source of free chips?

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In any US casino jurisdiction that I know of, electronic jackpots on e.g. slot machines (spins) are required to work exactly the same way "behind the scenes": the computer uses a PRNG to generate a random number as soon as the player hits the spin button or pulls the bar. The prize (if any) is decided by whether that random number falls into one of the pre-programmed ranges for various prizes. In other words, you've won or lost (and the prize amount is fixed) in a single microsecond ---before the human mind can even register that the spin has begun, much less the first frame of the spin animation.

For example, if the PRNG always generates a random number X between 0 and 1

X < 0.100  = 5000 chips

0.100 ≤ X < 0.101 = 30,000 chips

0.101 ≤ X < 0.250 = 8000 chips

0.250 ≤ X <0.2500001 = 500,000 chips

and  so on. Note that the sizes of the various "targets" is entirely up to the operator. Of course, we already knew that. Few machines even list the odds of hitting a target, because the casinos constantly adjust those numbers. ANY odds are perfectly legal, as long as any spin has exactly the same odds as any other. Some jurisdictions do specify a minimum payout (e.g. $1 slot machines in a given state may have to pay out total prizes equal to at least 90% of the money played) but whether that means you win $2 25% of the time,  $5 10% of the time... or if it means you rarely hit any low prize but hit the $1M jackpot 0.0005% of the time -- that's entirely up to the owner of the machine. Casinos tend to use lots of lower payouts, and very rare high payouts, because that gives players hope and keeps them playing -- but keep in mind the total sum over all prizes of (Prize * chances of that prize) always adds up to less than 1 (the machine always makes a profit in the long run).  GoP spins are different: since it cost nothing to spin, you always get MORE than you paid for (the machine NEVER makes a profit), but even though it's "something for nothing", a lot of Greedy Gusses demand "Hey, if you gave me $10K for nothing, why can't you give me $1M for nothing instead?" Some of you who make good money have poor relatives like that: no matter how much you help them out, they only imagine how much more money you must have left, and want THAT, too.

Now comes the important part: Though the law specifies what a "fair spin" is, by the rules set out above, the machine's owner has complete control over how that "fair" outcome is displayed on the screen.

In other words, if three cherries wins the jackpot on an old-fashioned slot machine, and you don't win (per the random number draw), the owner can choose to have the machine display three gravestones reading "Die, you loser" OR they can choose to display two cherries plus a third cherry that slowly tips into a lemon. They usually prefer the two cherries, because it makes the player feel like they "almost won". Actually, there is no "almost" -- they lost, completely lost, in the microsecond the computer chose the random number.

Now, personally, I don't care for such theatrics, but then again, I don't play slot machines, because I understand they are a (less than) zero-sum, random game. I prefer games of skill, like poker. I'm not a great player, like SoyxSauce or some of the people on my team --in fact, I'm just a beginner at Texas Hold'em-- but I have enough skill to turn a profit. I started out in October with the same few thousand we all get, and (with the help of the spin bonuses and other bonuses) turned that into $40M by February -- and I'm NOT being modestwhen I say I'm not a good player. I lean new details of how to play/read hands every week.

So when you see a $3M jackpot tip into $20K, there's no cheating.You were going to get $20K all along, and that's what you got. The machine is just showing it to you in the most optimistic way.

It's naive to think that every outcome has an equal chance of happening. Your own experience proves otherwise, whether here or at a casino. Heck, if you look closely at the animation during the mid-spin high-speed blur, you'll see that it doesn't even pretend to show any large (long number) values. It's just a "representation for entertainment value". The only thing that matters is the final outcome.

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Very impressive knowledge Elon... i give you that, no doubt you know more than you say !

And to answer to Beridok as well.... nobody's whining about anything in here, man. We're just pointing some facts we're experienced.... if you didn't and had better luck than us....

well, my congratulations ! Maybe you were born under a lucky star. And as an advice.... be more open minded with people, i don't think they come here to spread all kind of lies or inventing stories. There are just facts, nothing more.

Have a lovely day... and win that 30M from the purple spin for me, will you?

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12 hours ago, Beridok said:

But I won jackpot in orange spin (10M) and jackpot in purple spin (30M). And many times lower amounts like 100K or 300K.

Why you even whine about source of free chips?

Hi Beridok,

I don't complain about free chips, it is a good thing.

But, i have never won more of 24 000 chips in a spin since i am playing this game. So, the time some people spent on this game don't worth the fun to play Gop 3 anymore.

The worst was with the jackpot spin where i won 1 500 chips, it is a nonsense for me.

Of course, there is always a hazard to win a prize or another. But, at the end, i am fed up like many members here.

 

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I apologize if I sounded critical. I didn't mean to criticize anyone in this thread.

I've seen OTHER spin threads where people literally complained "Hey, GoP staff, why don't you ever give me $3M on the spin? You must be making money hand over fist."

I agree that the spin can be stingy and demoralizing. I had a long run where I felt lucky to get $10K. I know what it's like to FEEL like the system hates me.

 

Wow, Radiant -- I didn't even know jackpot spins went that low. Then again, I didn't remember that regular spins went down to 2500, until my run of bad luck.

Edited by elon
fixed phrasing

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Don't worry Elon, your ideas are very informative and imrpove the debate.

Like you said, always got 2500 or 5000 is demoralizing.

 

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2 hours ago, radiant said:

But, i have never won more of 24 000 chips in a spin since i am playing this game. So, the time some people spent on this game don't worth the fun to play Gop 3 anymore

First, sorry for my harsh comment.

Second, just keep trying - no spinning, no winning. I really wish people to get higher stakes from time to time. But seriously, most people have to get low stakes, like 2,5 or 5 or 8k chips in orange spin...

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Hello to all.

It's 2 hours now, i try to log in and gives me this message (pic) Why this is happening? Is it temporary or what?

Thanks

 

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24 minutes ago, arisnas said:

Φιλε μου καλημερα και εγω το ιδιο προβλημα εχω απο χθες.

Google-Translated to: My friends good and I have the same problem since yesterday.

@p8hcb game is now updated*, can you try to connect? Also, try to use web client, Steam client, FB Gameroom or Android, if possible to diagnose problem.

* - at least in Steam's beta... I am unsure if update was rolled for everyone.

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Hi GoP team,

I am looking for a document who indicates different levels because it affects the amount of chips thata governor can win. For example, a level 1 player may win such number of chips. A level 40 player may win such number of chips. For levels 40, 25,000 chips are earned by progressing.
For levels 50, it's XX XXX chips that governor can win etc.

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Hi BERIDOK i have tried many times and nothing yet! I play from browser (firefox) and don't use Steam, Android and i don't have Facebook to try. So this is happening due to update?
Last time i managed to play, i noticed a diferrence to speed of animation (more smooth) am i wrong?

Γεια σου φίλε μου ARISNAS! Μακάρι να το λύσουν το θέμα γρήγορα.

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23 hours ago, p8hcb said:

Hello to all.

It's 2 hours now, i try to log in and gives me this message (pic) Why this is happening? Is it temporary or what?

Thanks

 

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Problem solved :D

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Hello to all!

Can someone explain me this please? Why i won only 7.920K ano no 56.451K? Flush is better than Two pair...

Thanks!

 

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15 minutes ago, Jamie07 said:

Probably because you only had 2k chips so u get 2k of everyone

Thanks for the answer JAMIE07 :D

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19 hours ago, p8hcb said:

Can someone explain me this please? Why i won only 7.920K ano no 56.451K? Flush is better than Two pair...

It is explained here: https://orangegames.helpshift.com/a/governor-of-poker-3/?l=en&s=poker-blackjack&f=what-does-it-mean-to-have-a-split-pot-how-does-it-work

Additional Side Pots allow for players in the hand to continue playing, with each additional pot going to the player with the best hand. Therefore, it's possible that a player with a worse hand may win the biggest Side Pot, while the player with the best hand wins a smaller Side Pot for which they went All In.

Generally you can only win maximum of:rake*(player_number_with_max_bet*your_max_bet+lower_bets)
Player number who bet the same or more than you, and rake is only applying to cash game tables and is about 6%. If someone does bets less than you (but it's still all-in), you can take all his chips - those won't be split.

Example 1:
So if 3 players (you are 4th player) played, and you bet all-in with 2000, each player bet 2000 or more, you will get 4*2000 =8000. Then this needs to be lowered by rake, so you multiply by (100%-6%)=94%
So maximum win can be: 0,94 * (4 * 2000) = 7520.

Example 2:
So if 2 players (you are 3rd player) played with bet 2000+ , and you bet all-in with 2000, one player bet with 1000, you will get 3*2000+1000 =7000. Then this needs to be lowered by rake, so you multiply by (100%-6%)=94%
So maximum win can be: 0,94 * (3 * 2000 + 1000)  = 6580.

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